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valsodar 2022-07-10 14:00:39
SwitchAxe 2022-07-10 13:56:05
why on earth were you using pamac?
I’m using it only to tell me whenever there’s an update. Otherwise the updating itself I’m doing it manually in terminal.
SwitchAxe 2022-07-10 14:01:49
valsodar 2022-07-10 14:00:39
I’m using it only to tell me whenever there’s an update. Otherwise the updating itself I’m doing it manually in terminal.
i mean, there’s no real need, if every time there’s an update you need to update anyway just do
sudo pacman -Syu once every x days and you’ll be fine
davidemonge 2022-07-10 14:01:52
valsodar 2022-07-10 14:00:39
I’m using it only to tell me whenever there’s an update. Otherwise the updating itself I’m doing it manually in terminal.
of course you can do this way. But a try is not a heavy work.
valsodar 2022-07-10 14:03:25
SwitchAxe 2022-07-10 14:01:49
i mean, there’s no real need, if every time there’s an update you need to update anyway just do
sudo pacman -Syu once every x days and you’ll be fine
And if something breaks after the update, how will I know what broke? At least that way I’ll have a pretty good idea what might have been broken and will be able to restore (from backup) and then forbid the breaking packages to update until the problem is fixed.
SwitchAxe 2022-07-10 14:04:07
valsodar 2022-07-10 14:03:25
And if something breaks after the update, how will I know what broke? At least that way I’ll have a pretty good idea what might have been broken and will be able to restore (from backup) and then forbid the breaking packages to update until the problem is fixed.
how can you tell if a package is going to break your system before you update?
davidemonge 2022-07-10 14:05:48
valsodar 2022-07-10 14:03:25
And if something breaks after the update, how will I know what broke? At least that way I’ll have a pretty good idea what might have been broken and will be able to restore (from backup) and then forbid the breaking packages to update until the problem is fixed.
did you use a backup utility sometime? timeshift is perfect for me. Install and use it BEFORE big/any updates. You can always come back!
valsodar 2022-07-10 14:07:30
Please, timeshit is a joke… But use it, if you like it, it’s just not my style, I prefer clonezilla.
kevinroan 2022-07-10 14:08:23
iamharshit188 2022-07-10 12:54:31
i just want to use Pacman on gentoo
Beta
davidemonge 2022-07-10 14:10:04
valsodar 2022-07-10 14:07:30
Please, timeshit is a joke… But use it, if you like it, it’s just not my style, I prefer clonezilla.
oh, ok. Do a backup anyway. rsync is not a joke. Clonezilla have to be booted and you loose a bunch of time imho. Do what you prefer tho.
valsodar 2022-07-10 14:10:43
SwitchAxe 2022-07-10 14:04:07
how can you tell if a package is going to break your system before you update?
Before I run an update, I take a look at the waiting packages and remember them. If they’re too many to remember, I simply take a screenshot which goes to a non-system partition. That way, if something breaks after the update (and the reboot, ofc), I’ll restore from the backup and then do the update package by package until I find the culprit. At that point I’ll restore from the backup again, forbid that package to update (by adding it to pacman’s ignorepkg) and update the rest. Whenever the problem is fixed, I’ll remove that package from the ignore list. But some packages never leave the ignorepkg list. ๐
valsodar 2022-07-10 14:12:41
davidemonge 2022-07-10 14:10:04
oh, ok. Do a backup anyway. rsync is not a joke. Clonezilla have to be booted and you loose a bunch of time imho. Do what you prefer tho.
If you boot it from a CD/DVD, yes, you’ll have to wait at least 5 minutes for it to start. But when you boot it from a USB 3.0 Ventoy flash drive, it starts almost instantly in less than a minute.
valsodar 2022-07-10 14:14:03
Besides, creating backups while the system is running… that sounds like begging for trouble bc some files can’t be compressed while they’re being used by the system.
valsodar 2022-07-10 14:14:29
Whereas clonezilla does its thing when the system is not running, therefore EVERYTHING is in the backup.
davidemonge 2022-07-10 14:20:04
valsodar 2022-07-10 14:14:29
Whereas clonezilla does its thing when the system is not running, therefore EVERYTHING is in the backup.
Read this https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Rsync try timeshift (it uses rsync) at least once and compare. After that, you can do what you want on your system, oc! peace.
C0rn3j 2022-07-10 15:11:07
valsodar 2022-07-10 14:10:43
Before I run an update, I take a look at the waiting packages and remember them. If they’re too many to remember, I simply take a screenshot which goes to a non-system partition. That way, if something breaks after the update (and the reboot, ofc), I’ll restore from the backup and then do the update package by package until I find the culprit. At that point I’ll restore from the backup again, forbid that package to update (by adding it to pacman’s ignorepkg) and update the rest. Whenever the problem is fixed, I’ll remove that package from the ignore list. But some packages never leave the ignorepkg list. ๐
You do realize you can do the same with a terminal window, or simply read the pacman log?
Are you even using Arch?
valsodar 2022-07-10 15:13:34
C0rn3j 2022-07-10 15:11:07
You do realize you can do the same with a terminal window, or simply read the pacman log?
Are you even using Arch?
Yes, but terminal can’t alert you whenever a new update becomes available.
S_like_Dollar 2022-07-10 15:13:38
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C0rn3j 2022-07-10 15:14:26
valsodar 2022-07-10 15:13:34
Yes, but terminal can’t alert you whenever a new update becomes available.
It’s Arch, there are updates literally hourly, what’s alerting helping you with exactly?
valsodar 2022-07-10 15:18:12
C0rn3j 2022-07-10 15:14:26
It’s Arch, there are updates literally hourly, what’s alerting helping you with exactly?
A new big version of Cinnamon arrives, I don’t make a backup before updating and then it turns out the desktop is broken and not working properly. That’s why I started using a visual alert to tell whenever there’s a new update. When I see something that could break everything, like Cinnamon new version, I’ll make a backup first and then update. This saves me a lot of trouble later.
C0rn3j 2022-07-10 15:22:02
Did you setup your bootloader with quiet mode?
valsodar 2022-07-10 16:38:39
Who is the developer of the archinstall script?
valsodar 2022-07-10 16:41:37
If he/she is online:
valsodar 2022-07-10 16:41:53
grazzolini 2022-07-10 16:43:00
valsodar 2022-07-10 16:41:53
https://github.com/archlinux/archinstall/issues
Issues ยท archlinux/archinstall –
GitHubArch Linux installer – guided, templates etc. Contribute to archlinux/archinstall development by creating an account on GitHub.
jonathn 2022-07-10 17:31:25
Ask Kali?
J C 2022-07-10 17:43:38
None
179090 2022-07-10 17:59:58
xfce
AgostinoDiLillo 2022-07-10 18:16:43
179090 2022-07-10 17:59:58
xfce
This
ghostinthewire 2022-07-10 19:51:54
which kernel is better for battery life?
ghostinthewire 2022-07-10 19:53:43
are you using zRAM?
kraftwerk28 2022-07-10 23:06:31
Where is it better to install self-compiled packages? One of /usr/local, /opt, $HOME/.local I guess?
C0rn3j 2022-07-10 23:14:33
kraftwerk28 2022-07-10 23:06:31
Where is it better to install self-compiled packages? One of /usr/local, /opt, $HOME/.local I guess?
Ideally, make a PKGBUILD and follow the conventions
k83sj4 2022-07-10 23:32:24
ghostinthewire 2022-07-10 19:53:43
are you using zRAM?
yes
ghostinthewire 2022-07-10 23:32:58
k83sj4 2022-07-10 23:32:24
yes
does it make swap faster
howeverpossible 2022-07-10 23:33:01
How
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