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ItsZariep 2022-07-20 13:25:27
ItsZariep 2022-07-20 13:24:28
the “hard” part of Arch is the installation, and is very easy if you read the wiki
you may encounter problems with the drivers, but it should not be the fault of the distribution
yantramza 2022-07-20 13:25:57
qontinuum 2022-07-20 13:23:43
Actually it also has a bad effect
Some people think Artix is a super easy Arch derivative because of this and get lost when actually having to do stuff with it
Well at the end, always researching and reading the manual about the distro is always the must ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
qontinuum 2022-07-20 13:26:21
ItsZariep 2022-07-20 13:25:27
you may encounter problems with the drivers, but it should not be the fault of the distribution
It is kind of what makes the installation difficult, Ubuntu for example comes with much more stuff installed to support most stuff
ItsZariep 2022-07-20 13:26:26
so, maybe in effect Arch is not for newbies because you must know how to identify the packages you want and read manuals and wikis, but it is not that by installing it you are a prodigy in computer science
qontinuum 2022-07-20 13:27:02
yantramza 2022-07-20 13:25:57
Well at the end, always researching and reading the manual about the distro is always the must ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It is, the problem isn’t noobs that get lost
It is noobs that come here without reading anything and asking us to administrate their machine
Solrac00 2022-07-20 13:27:42
ItsZariep 2022-07-20 13:24:28
the “hard” part of Arch is the installation, and is very easy if you read the wiki
Arch install
ItsZariep 2022-07-20 13:27:48
Solrac00 2022-07-20 13:27:42
Arch install
no
Solrac00 2022-07-20 13:27:52
Lol
Solrac00 2022-07-20 13:28:11
I did it, i distrohopped so many times
yantramza 2022-07-20 13:28:17
qontinuum 2022-07-20 13:27:02
It is, the problem isn’t noobs that get lost
It is noobs that come here without reading anything and asking us to administrate their machine
Yes and then the go at the forums or tg groups and yell at the people for a particular thing for not working which can take a few glances at the docs to fix it.
ItsZariep 2022-07-20 13:29:03
Solrac00 2022-07-20 13:27:42
Arch install
even if you use it, that only makes the installation minimal, it does not install a thousand drivers and the PC works magically for you out of the box
yantramza 2022-07-20 13:29:11
yantramza 2022-07-20 13:28:17
Yes and then the go at the forums or tg groups and yell at the people for a particular thing for not working which can take a few glances at the docs to fix it.
And then they also wonder why the community is being “toxic”
ItsZariep 2022-07-20 13:29:45
ItsZariep 2022-07-20 13:29:03
even if you use it, that only makes the installation minimal, it does not install a thousand drivers and the PC works magically for you out of the box
because archinstall dont know and dont want to know if you have nvidia, intel, amd, realtek, broadcom or others
qontinuum 2022-07-20 13:30:04
Better seeing it as a tool to quickly install Arch and then customize it
ReßéL 2022-07-20 13:36:06
ItsZariep 2022-07-20 13:24:28
the “hard” part of Arch is the installation, and is very easy if you read the wiki
no need, we have arch install
grazzolini 2022-07-20 13:48:08
ItsZariep 2022-07-20 13:24:28
the “hard” part of Arch is the installation, and is very easy if you read the wiki
It’s not really. Maintaining an Arch installation is the actual hard part
Solrac00 2022-07-20 13:48:31
qontinuum 2022-07-20 13:30:04
Better seeing it as a tool to quickly install Arch and then customize it
Yes, I mainly use it for this reason
grazzolini 2022-07-20 13:51:10
ItsZariep 2022-07-20 13:29:45
because archinstall dont know and dont want to know if you have nvidia, intel, amd, realtek, broadcom or others
Archinstall installs video drivers, what are you talking about?
Solrac00 2022-07-20 13:51:56
It depends on what profile you select during install
Solrac00 2022-07-20 13:52:04
Desktop does, the others no
ItsZariep 2022-07-20 13:52:19
grazzolini 2022-07-20 13:51:10
Archinstall installs video drivers, what are you talking about?
ok
ItsZariep 2022-07-20 13:52:58
but selecting everything is actually not for noobs since dont know what to choose (?
grazzolini 2022-07-20 13:53:21
ItsZariep 2022-07-20 13:52:58
but selecting everything is actually not for noobs since dont know what to choose (?
It tries to detect what you have
grazzolini 2022-07-20 13:53:36
But it’s not perfect, for sure
grazzolini 2022-07-20 13:54:12
Solrac00 2022-07-20 13:52:04
Desktop does, the others no
If the profile you select is based on the desktop one, it will install too
Solrac00 2022-07-20 13:54:24
Yes
ItsZariep 2022-07-20 13:54:41
idk, i think Arch’s point is supposed to be choosing what you want, however you want, not being the most difficult distribution in the world
RadiantKnight 2022-07-20 13:55:53
noobs should install gentoo 😉
capezotte 2022-07-20 13:56:02
RadiantKnight 2022-07-20 13:55:53
noobs should install gentoo 😉
can confirm
ItsZariep 2022-07-20 13:56:26
RadiantKnight 2022-07-20 13:55:53
noobs should install gentoo 😉
better openbsd from scratch
danyspin97 2022-07-20 13:57:24
RadiantKnight 2022-07-20 13:55:53
noobs should install gentoo 😉
gentoo is not that hard
danyspin97 2022-07-20 13:57:38
I think it’s harder to setup s6 😛
Spektrum_light 2022-07-20 13:57:57
danyspin97 2022-07-20 13:57:38
I think it’s harder to setup s6 😛
it is
Spektrum_light 2022-07-20 13:58:04
gentoo/s6 requires some blood but it works
danyspin97 2022-07-20 13:58:15
s6 requires blood
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