Do you really think the Linux API has been taking the role of the POSIX API and the other systems are irrelevant?

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RadiantKnight 2022-07-23 11:40:28
Abandon Linux, use BSD 😏
RadiantKnight 2022-07-23 11:42:39
FreeBSD handbook part 69:
Sustemd as init
slamko 2022-07-23 11:55:42
grakata_clem 2022-07-23 10:53:20
Also https://linuxfr.org/nodes/86687/comments/1249943

LinuxFr.org : Systemd use a lot of Linux only technologies (cgroups, udev, fanotify, timerfd, signalfd, etc). Do you really think the Linux API has been taking the role of the POSIX API and the other systems are irrelevant ?

Lennart :Β Yes, I don’t think BSD is really too relevant anymore, and I think that this implied requirement for compatibility with those systems when somebody hacks software for the free desktop or ecosystem is a burden, and holds us back for little benefit.
I am pretty sure those other systems are not irrelevant for everbody, after all there are people hacking on them. I just don’t think it’s really in our interest to let us being held back by them if we want to make sure Linux enters the mainstream all across the board (and not just on servers and mobile phones, and not in reduced ways like Android). They are irrelevant to get Free Software into everybody’s hand, and I think that is and should be our goal.

And it makes sense, no?

grakata_clem 2022-07-23 11:56:52
slamko 2022-07-23 11:55:42
And it makes sense, no?

When you read about it, it does, but when Poettering comes to action, it sucks somehow

Aurelian 2022-07-23 11:57:47
Alex 2022-07-23 10:00:46
even directional antennas won’t hurt you unless you sit 10cm next to them

this made me laugh. thanks

lanciagreggori 2022-07-23 12:08:11
grakata_clem 2022-07-23 10:53:20
Also https://linuxfr.org/nodes/86687/comments/1249943

LinuxFr.org : Systemd use a lot of Linux only technologies (cgroups, udev, fanotify, timerfd, signalfd, etc). Do you really think the Linux API has been taking the role of the POSIX API and the other systems are irrelevant ?

Lennart :Β Yes, I don’t think BSD is really too relevant anymore, and I think that this implied requirement for compatibility with those systems when somebody hacks software for the free desktop or ecosystem is a burden, and holds us back for little benefit.
I am pretty sure those other systems are not irrelevant for everbody, after all there are people hacking on them. I just don’t think it’s really in our interest to let us being held back by them if we want to make sure Linux enters the mainstream all across the board (and not just on servers and mobile phones, and not in reduced ways like Android). They are irrelevant to get Free Software into everybody’s hand, and I think that is and should be our goal.

>Lennart : Yes, I don’t think BSD is really too relevant anymore, and I think that this implied requirement for compatibility with those systems when somebody hacks software for the free desktop or ecosystem is a burden, and holds us back for little benefit.

I agree, people should be able to write software without being shouted at “what about POSIX?

herzeleid02 2022-07-23 12:16:50
whats the cinnamon version in artix
herzeleid02 2022-07-23 12:16:58
is it that fresh like in beta mint?
qontinuum 2022-07-23 12:21:15
lanciagreggori 2022-07-23 12:08:11
>Lennart : Yes, I don’t think BSD is really too relevant anymore, and I think that this implied requirement for compatibility with those systems when somebody hacks software for the free desktop or ecosystem is a burden, and holds us back for little benefit.

I agree, people should be able to write software without being shouted at “what about POSIX?”

What about POSIX?

qontinuum 2022-07-23 12:21:52
Not caring about POSIX is refusing choice
wardenunit 2022-07-23 13:00:12
grakata_clem 2022-07-23 09:59:11
Your tinfoil hat must be thick bro

Lmao, continue to negate deliberate imposition of deliberately vicious software

wardenunit 2022-07-23 13:00:49
Also planned obsolscence doesn’t exist 🀣🀣🀣
qontinuum 2022-07-23 13:01:09
How is it even related?
wardenunit 2022-07-23 13:01:14
qontinuum 2022-07-23 13:01:09
How is it even related?

Directly

qontinuum 2022-07-23 13:01:28
wardenunit 2022-07-23 13:01:14
Directly

It definitely isn’t

wardenunit 2022-07-23 13:01:42
qontinuum 2022-07-23 13:01:28
It definitely isn’t

Did
not
ask

grakata_clem 2022-07-23 13:02:04
wardenunit 2022-07-23 13:00:12
Lmao, continue to negate deliberate imposition of deliberately vicious software

I don’t negate anything, I’m just saying that “systemd political influence” sounds like something you gotta hear from dude with MAGA hat

qontinuum 2022-07-23 13:02:50
wardenunit 2022-07-23 13:00:12
Lmao, continue to negate deliberate imposition of deliberately vicious software

No one imposed anything

wardenunit 2022-07-23 13:03:20
you could already see political influence in forceforgetting GNU contribution and similar things
Spektrum_light 2022-07-23 13:03:41
artixlinux-486950.jpg

Aurelian 2022-07-23 13:03:57
Spektrum_light 2022-07-23 13:03:41

Boomer meme

Spektrum_light 2022-07-23 13:05:39
Aurelian 2022-07-23 13:03:57
Boomer meme

i’m gonna get angry

JD [0/4πŸ’‰] 2022-07-23 13:06:12
Spektrum_light 2022-07-23 13:03:41

Nice duck

Spektrum_light 2022-07-23 13:08:26
JD [0/4πŸ’‰] 2022-07-23 13:06:12
Nice duck

artixlinux-486954.jpg

herzeleid02 2022-07-23 13:08:34
and the fact that it works no cap on my big compooter
herzeleid02 2022-07-23 13:08:34
wardenunit 2022-07-23 13:03:20
you could already see political influence in forceforgetting GNU contribution and similar things

i use artix 4 cool logo and omniverse packages and telegram group and anti vaccine stance of one of the guys

Spektrum_light 2022-07-23 13:08:58
these two messages are a rollercoaster
Spektrum_light 2022-07-23 13:09:03
wow
wardenunit 2022-07-23 13:09:48
Spektrum_light 2022-07-23 13:08:58
these two messages are a rollercoaster

I had to use translator

JD [0/4πŸ’‰] 2022-07-23 13:09:48
Spektrum_light 2022-07-23 13:08:26

artixlinux-486959.jpg

JD [0/4πŸ’‰] 2022-07-23 13:10:40
We should add @FioriktosBot
JD [0/4πŸ’‰] 2022-07-23 13:10:50
Markov chain bot
JD [0/4πŸ’‰] 2022-07-23 13:10:58
Would be more coherent
wardenunit 2022-07-23 13:12:43
I’d like to see a supervisor layer for chat bots, such that every bot action could be inspected and logged through a supervisor bot
wardenunit 2022-07-23 13:13:22
for example force some of operations to go through it
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