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capezotte 2022-08-15 15:42:49
Rougreh 2022-08-15 15:42:26
who won haha
still ongoing afaik
Rougreh 2022-08-15 15:42:51
and who sued them
Rougreh 2022-08-15 15:42:56
capezotte 2022-08-15 15:42:49
still ongoing afaik
hilarious
Rougreh 2022-08-15 15:42:58
link?
capezotte 2022-08-15 15:43:04
Rougreh 2022-08-15 15:42:51
and who sued them
software freedom conservancy afaik
capezotte 2022-08-15 15:43:17
they’re usually the ones pulling these stunts
capezotte 2022-08-15 15:43:44
i mean plenty of phones and smart tvs only have custom roms due to sfc annoying them
Rougreh 2022-08-15 15:44:02
really?
capezotte 2022-08-15 15:44:13
Rougreh 2022-08-15 15:34:11
GPL has some loopholes tho
the biggest loophole is the one affero closes
Rougreh 2022-08-15 15:44:15
they are pretty good then, ay?
Rougreh 2022-08-15 15:44:23
capezotte 2022-08-15 15:44:13
the biggest loophole is the one affero closes
affero closes?
capezotte 2022-08-15 15:44:34
make the software require some sort of closed server
capezotte 2022-08-15 15:44:41
basically snap
capezotte 2022-08-15 15:44:51
Rougreh 2022-08-15 15:44:15
they are pretty good then, ay?
yes
Rougreh 2022-08-15 15:45:33
so having GPL software on a proprietary server?
Rougreh 2022-08-15 15:45:43
isn’t that a GPL violation too?
capezotte 2022-08-15 15:46:30
Rougreh 2022-08-15 15:42:58
link?
https://lwn.net/Articles/895405/
SFC v. Vizio remanded back to California state courts –
lwn.netSoftware Freedom Conservancy (SFC)
has announced
that it succeeded with its motion in US Federal Court to send the case back
to California, where it was originally filed. The suit was filed
in October 2021 by SFC, as an owner of Vizio televisions, to get
the company to comply with the GPL on some of the code in the TVs. Back in November, Vizio had
asked to move the
case to Federal Court, because the GPL is only a copyright license
(which is a dispute handled at the Federal level) and not a contract (that
could be adjudicated in state court). Friday’s ruling disagreed with that premise:
The May 13 ruling by the Honorable Josephine L. Staton stated that the
claim from Software Freedom Conservancy succeeded in the “extra element
test” and was not preempted by copyright claims, and the court finds “that
the enforcement of ‘an additional contractual promise separate and distinct
from any rights provided by the copyright laws’ amounts to an ‘extra
element,’ and therefore, SFC’s claims are not preempted.”
capezotte 2022-08-15 15:46:41
Rougreh 2022-08-15 15:45:43
isn’t that a GPL violation too?
dunno, ask canonical
Rougreh 2022-08-15 15:47:37
capezotte 2022-08-15 15:46:41
dunno, ask canonical
no
lanciagreggori 2022-08-15 15:47:47
Rougreh 2022-08-15 15:42:18
I meant that in a company context
but yeah that rarely happens, if you license shit under GPL, it means you actually want people to see the source code
Rougreh 2022-08-15 15:48:47
lanciagreggori 2022-08-15 15:47:47
but yeah that rarely happens, if you license shit under GPL, it means you actually want people to see the source code
can happen is still bad ._.
lanciagreggori 2022-08-15 15:49:20
lanciagreggori 2022-08-15 15:30:19
*which they do btw, use it to build their product and then give you like 300 bucks for all your sweat and hardwork that they profited off of
TLDR: BSD is a cuck license, anyone can take your code and give nothing back, don’t use it if you have any respect for your code
capezotte 2022-08-15 15:50:50
Rougreh 2022-08-15 15:48:47
can happen is still bad ._.
that’s like removing traffic lights because some people will go even if it’s red
Rougreh 2022-08-15 16:01:01
capezotte 2022-08-15 15:50:50
that’s like removing traffic lights because some people will go even if it’s red
hm
Rougreh 2022-08-15 16:01:03
ok
qontinuum 2022-08-15 16:02:37
That’s like removing mitigations because there are non mitigated vulnerabilities
qontinuum 2022-08-15 16:02:46
Imagine being such an idiot
Rougreh 2022-08-15 16:20:12
confusion x 10
Ronard 2022-08-15 16:20:20
what th a fack
capezotte 2022-08-15 16:23:55
capezotte 2022-08-15 15:46:30
https://lwn.net/Articles/895405/
qontinuum 2022-08-15 16:40:28
capezotte 2022-08-15 16:23:55
What do you expect from an Italian company?
ChrisCromer 2022-08-15 17:04:15
lanciagreggori 2022-08-15 15:49:20
TLDR: BSD is a cuck license, anyone can take your code and give nothing back, don’t use it if you have any respect for your code
BSD is when you have more respect for yourself than your code. BSD leaves control and ownership in the hands of the developers unlike GPL which fucks the developers because the license cares more about the code than the person who wrote it.
ChrisCromer 2022-08-15 17:04:59
It’s my code, and I want to remain in charge of it, so BSD license is what I use.
capezotte 2022-08-15 17:05:15
wut
ChrisCromer 2022-08-15 17:05:48
GPL doesn’t protect the developers, it protects the code itself.
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