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Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:49:05
capezotte 2022-08-16 18:47:51
most distro builds enable lto, pgo, stack protector and everything else
is saving disk space a factor
grazzolini 2022-08-16 18:49:06
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:48:33
prove it
I already did a few messages back, go back and read it
Solrac00 2022-08-16 18:49:10
ItsZariep 2022-08-16 18:05:14
its sad that some people prefer philosophy instead of comfort
Let’s use soystemd
capezotte 2022-08-16 18:49:15
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:49:05
is saving disk space a factor
no, quite the contrary
grazzolini 2022-08-16 18:49:32
capezotte 2022-08-16 18:49:02
why can’t we admit we compile because we like to see scrolly text go brrr
That would be a perfectly valid reason to use Gentoo
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:50:03
I guess that I won’t be using gentoo
grakata_clem 2022-08-16 18:50:03
ankit_suman 2022-08-16 18:34:51
Mind to share your PC specs on which you use gentoo?
I have a laptop I can’t exactly remember specs of, but the model is ASUS X541UVK, and I have a newly built PC with AMD 3400G Pro, 16 Gb DDR4 with 3400 MHz and no video card
grakata_clem 2022-08-16 18:50:09
Can’t remember a motherboard
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:50:11
perhaps I should try alpine edge
alokmystic 2022-08-16 18:50:15
siduck 2022-08-16 12:16:06
Yes remove artix gtk and qt themes
just deleting artix-dark theme solved this issue.
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:50:23
grazzolini 2022-08-16 18:49:32
That would be a perfectly valid reason to use Gentoo
ok wow ._.
grazzolini 2022-08-16 18:51:43
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:50:23
ok wow ._.
Also, USE flags as very nice as a concept. Disabling what you don’t need means less surface to be attacked. The problem is in claiming that you should use Gentoo because it is faster.
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:52:07
then hardening comes in again
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:52:14
because of the lower attack surface
grakata_clem 2022-08-16 18:52:32
grazzolini 2022-08-16 18:51:43
Also, USE flags as very nice as a concept. Disabling what you don’t need means less surface to be attacked. The problem is in claiming that you should use Gentoo because it is faster.
The problem is running into people and shoving your opinion on compilation down their throat
capezotte 2022-08-16 18:52:38
grazzolini 2022-08-16 18:51:43
Also, USE flags as very nice as a concept. Disabling what you don’t need means less surface to be attacked. The problem is in claiming that you should use Gentoo because it is faster.
I mean, I was unironically driven to gentoo because I didn’t want to install gvim just for X11 copypaste and got tired of the vim-clipboard aur package being outdated
grazzolini 2022-08-16 18:52:41
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:52:07
then hardening comes in again
Hardening can be achieved in many ways, not just through software compilation
capezotte 2022-08-16 18:53:17
grakata_clem 2022-08-16 18:52:32
The problem is running into people and shoving your opinion on compilation down their throat
he’s not wrong, even glibc ships with multiple versions of the same function depending on hardware
capezotte 2022-08-16 18:53:22
literally runtime -march=native
grazzolini 2022-08-16 18:53:27
grakata_clem 2022-08-16 18:52:32
The problem is running into people and shoving your opinion on compilation down their throat
It’s not a opinion that runtime optimizations exist and that they make the effects of -03 and friends negligible
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:54:09
capezotte 2022-08-16 18:52:38
I mean, I was unironically driven to gentoo because I didn’t want to install gvim just for X11 copypaste and got tired of the vim-clipboard aur package being outdated
gentoo officially suppports vim-clipboard?
capezotte 2022-08-16 18:54:36
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:54:09
gentoo officially suppports vim-clipboard?
no need to, just set USE to +X -gtk
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:54:47
what does that do
grazzolini 2022-08-16 18:54:49
Btw, Arch is getting a -v3 architecture because some things like battery life and disk usage and memory usage due to smaller binaries. Not because it will be faster
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:55:14
does arch not care about being fast
capezotte 2022-08-16 18:55:25
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:54:47
what does that do
…allows you to use X11 copypaste without building gvim
grazzolini 2022-08-16 18:55:30
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:55:14
does arch not care about being fast
It’s already pretty fast
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:55:35
capezotte 2022-08-16 18:55:25
…allows you to use X11 copypaste without building gvim
heh ok
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:55:56
grazzolini 2022-08-16 18:55:30
It’s already pretty fast
the next step is to abolish systemd
capezotte 2022-08-16 18:56:24
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:55:56
the next step is to abolish systemd
<insert 50 line explanation by the arch sysvinit maintainer on why systemd good>
grazzolini 2022-08-16 18:56:33
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:55:14
does arch not care about being fast
Also, while Arch doesn’t have a USE flags system, you can use ABS/ASP and build everything yourself the way you want it
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:56:38
arch sysvinit maintainer?
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:56:53
oh ok
grazzolini 2022-08-16 18:57:01
Rougreh 2022-08-16 18:55:56
the next step is to abolish systemd
Not gonna happen. Unless other init systems make the developers lives easier.
grakata_clem 2022-08-16 18:57:11
grazzolini 2022-08-16 18:56:33
Also, while Arch doesn’t have a USE flags system, you can use ABS/ASP and build everything yourself the way you want it
Oh no, but it’s a compilation, it wastes precious resources!
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