What do you guys actually think about runit compared to s6, should s6 replace runit or can they coexist?

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qontinuum 2022-08-27 01:21:22
No, you are contributing to open source software
AndrewBenn 2022-08-27 01:26:51
Don’t new staff members have to be online 18 hr/day 7 days/week to answer noob questions here, on reddit and the web forums for about 5 years?
qontinuum 2022-08-27 01:27:55
aapart from the 5 years condition I think I am the only one
capezotte 2022-08-27 01:41:12
Marc 2022-08-27 00:21:55
im here: https://gitea.artixlinux.org/packagesD/dhcp-dinit , i cant see the mantainer…

if only there was a message above the list of files with the name of the maintainer and his latest change

qontinuum 2022-08-27 01:41:55
capezotte 2022-08-27 01:41:12
if only there was a message above the list of files with the name of the maintainer and his latest change

Oh boy, what about using git?

Glats 2022-08-27 01:43:20
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capezotte 2022-08-27 01:46:41
i didn’t
capezotte 2022-08-27 01:46:42
pls halp
qontinuum 2022-08-27 01:47:04
You are too southerner for the southerner
qontinuum 2022-08-27 01:59:27
What do you guys actually think about runit compared to s6, should s6 replace runit or can they coexist?
capezotte 2022-08-27 02:00:40
qontinuum 2022-08-27 01:59:27
What do you guys actually think about runit compared to s6, should s6 replace runit or can they coexist?

as in “s6 without s6-rc” becoming its own init option supplanting runit?

capezotte 2022-08-27 02:02:19
i don’t think artix’s current s6+s6-rc configuration can really replace runit, s6-rc makes it too different
qontinuum 2022-08-27 02:02:27
capezotte 2022-08-27 02:00:40
as in “s6 without s6-rc” becoming its own init option supplanting runit?

Kind of, my question is about runit being useless because s6 has the same philosophy

capezotte 2022-08-27 02:05:05
qontinuum 2022-08-27 02:02:27
Kind of, my question is about runit being useless because s6 has the same philosophy

in that sense it is, but I don’t think artix runit users would like moving to s6 as PID1 unless a setup that sets it up to be as dumb as runit is provided

AndrewBenn 2022-08-27 02:05:37
Congrats on your pay raise, Q
capezotte 2022-08-27 02:05:44
AndrewBenn 2022-08-27 02:05:37
Congrats on your pay raise, Q

his salary doubled!

qontinuum 2022-08-27 02:06:26
capezotte 2022-08-27 02:05:44
his salary doubled!

And my joy wil grow to infinite tomorrow when I will silence Daniel mouhahahaha

capezotte 2022-08-27 02:06:46
just trick him into naming the default runescape character
AndrewBenn 2022-08-27 02:06:55
I am using runit right now, but not tied to it. I could go dinit or s6 or openrc. I prefer the simple/easy – my laptop is not complicated.
qontinuum 2022-08-27 02:07:13
capezotte 2022-08-27 02:05:05
in that sense it is, but I don’t think artix runit users would like moving to s6 as PID1 unless a setup that sets it up to be as dumb as runit is provided

Yeah, that is part of my reflection, runit is loved because it is dumb as fuck

AndrewBenn 2022-08-27 02:07:38
and as you said the other day, no security issues in runit. heh
qontinuum 2022-08-27 02:07:49
AndrewBenn 2022-08-27 02:06:55
I am using runit right now, but not tied to it. I could go dinit or s6 or openrc. I prefer the simple/easy – my laptop is not complicated.

Well, runit is definitely the dumbest

qontinuum 2022-08-27 02:08:34
AndrewBenn 2022-08-27 02:07:38
and as you said the other day, no security issues in runit. heh

Meh, it was a joke, no one uses it so no one can release a CVE

capezotte 2022-08-27 02:09:18
AndrewBenn 2022-08-27 02:06:55
I am using runit right now, but not tied to it. I could go dinit or s6 or openrc. I prefer the simple/easy – my laptop is not complicated.

s6 can be set up to work exactly like runit (in fact s6’s PID1 is a ultimately a runit clone)

qontinuum 2022-08-27 02:10:02
And s6 can be implemented in runit
capezotte 2022-08-27 02:10:04
I wouldn’t oppose dropping runit in favor of “dumb s6” packages
qontinuum 2022-08-27 02:10:08
they are cousins
ChrisCromer 2022-08-27 02:10:11
qontinuum 2022-08-27 01:59:27
What do you guys actually think about runit compared to s6, should s6 replace runit or can they coexist?

s6 is superior. But runit is still good for low memory situations.

capezotte 2022-08-27 02:10:34
qontinuum 2022-08-27 02:10:02
And s6 can be implemented in runit

kind of, you have implement notify-fd externally

AndrewBenn 2022-08-27 02:10:51
runit:void :: s6:obarun
qontinuum 2022-08-27 02:12:07
ChrisCromer 2022-08-27 02:10:11
s6 is superior. But runit is still good for low memory situations.

I honestly think s6 is superior in such cases since it is literally made for embedded systems but runit is so much flexible as it would literally execute whatever you want as a service and you could implement anything in the service itself

qontinuum 2022-08-27 02:13:13
s6 is bloat ffs
capezotte 2022-08-27 02:13:43
qontinuum 2022-08-27 02:12:07
I honestly think s6 is superior in such cases since it is literally made for embedded systems but runit is so much flexible as it would literally execute whatever you want as a service and you could implement anything in the service itself

n o h e a p a l l o c a t i o n s

qontinuum 2022-08-27 02:14:25
capezotte 2022-08-27 02:13:43
n o h e a p a l l o c a t i o n s

s6 only uses stack?

capezotte 2022-08-27 02:17:04
qontinuum 2022-08-27 02:14:25
s6 only uses stack?

svscan and supervise do afaik

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