Can systemd be said to be a case of worse is better?

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Glats 2022-08-28 03:54:45
https://twitter.com/nixcraft/status/1563690723790430208

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Haha, Based on real events https://t.co/sX7RBnJ9sm
Glats 2022-08-28 03:55:02
artixlinux-500175.jpg

capezotte 2022-08-28 04:39:22
yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 03:51:56
man this book is a goldmine

unix-haters handbook?

yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 04:39:28
capezotte 2022-08-28 04:39:22
unix-haters handbook?

yeah

capezotte 2022-08-28 04:40:09
Glats 2022-08-28 03:54:45
https://twitter.com/nixcraft/status/1563690723790430208

artix didn’t ship it 😎

yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 04:41:00
capezotte 2022-08-28 04:39:22
unix-haters handbook?

where did CS humor go man, these guys were all hilarious, my profs talk about the glory days but they dont share this stuff w us

capezotte 2022-08-28 04:41:28
yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 04:41:00
where did CS humor go man, these guys were all hilarious, my profs talk about the glory days but they dont share this stuff w us

usenet archives

yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 04:42:08
capezotte 2022-08-28 04:41:28
usenet archives

i mean like the sense of humor in the people not the literal correspondences, but thanks for that will look into it

capezotte 2022-08-28 04:43:55
csh considered harmful
yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 04:44:36
nah fr like, my older profs seem like they have cool stories but they never open up, all you get is autism or homework
yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 04:44:54
like on the last day he gave a rant about how the second s in kiss is redundant
yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 04:45:44
capezotte 2022-08-28 04:43:55
csh considered harmful

even the recursive names, does anyone do it anymore?

yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 04:45:54
linux is the newest one i can think of
yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 05:15:44
can systemd be said to be a case of worse is better?
capezotte 2022-08-28 05:32:25
why
yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 05:35:38
capezotte 2022-08-28 05:32:25
why

rushed before competitors could come, it was convenient to adopt/was pushed by a big vendor, and now has been patched enough such that its sufficient for most users

Rougreh 2022-08-28 05:39:54
capezotte 2022-08-28 04:43:55
csh considered harmful

y

yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 05:40:34
Rougreh 2022-08-28 05:39:54
y

https://www.grymoire.com/unix/CshTop10.txt

Rougreh 2022-08-28 05:41:00
TLDR
yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 05:41:10
inconsistent behaviour
Rougreh 2022-08-28 05:41:30
I wonder why freebsd uses it
kunrooted 2022-08-28 05:42:18
because it’s fun
yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 05:42:33
yeah it looks fun
yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 05:42:39
i really hate the sh synthax
lanciagreggori 2022-08-28 05:45:42
yabadaba doo 2022-08-27 20:44:47
>Here is my metaphor: your book is a pudding stuffed with apposite
observations, many well-conceived. Like excrement, it contains
enough undigested nuggets of nutrition to sustain life for some. But
it is not a tasty pie: it reeks too much of contempt and of envy.

A fellow UNIX haters handbook enjoyer?

yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 05:46:06
lanciagreggori 2022-08-28 05:45:42
A fellow UNIX haters handbook enjoyer?

yeah i just discovered been procrastinating and reading it

lanciagreggori 2022-08-28 05:46:06
yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 05:42:39
i really hate the sh synthax

You’ll dig it once you learn it

capezotte 2022-08-28 05:46:15
yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 05:35:38
rushed before competitors could come, it was convenient to adopt/was pushed by a big vendor, and now has been patched enough such that its sufficient for most users

nah, there were plenty of competitors
if anything, sysvinit was the “worse is better” vs runit/daemontools

and unlike unix systemd is so complex you can’t make multiple implementations of it

yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 05:46:28
lanciagreggori 2022-08-28 05:46:06
You’ll dig it once you learn it

i dont like space/tab importance in synthax

yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 05:46:37
capezotte 2022-08-28 05:46:15
nah, there were plenty of competitors
if anything, sysvinit was the “worse is better” vs runit/daemontools

and unlike unix systemd is so complex you can’t make multiple implementations of it

oh true

lanciagreggori 2022-08-28 05:46:39
lanciagreggori 2022-08-28 05:46:06
You’ll dig it once you learn it

Its difficult because its a departure from C

lanciagreggori 2022-08-28 05:46:47
yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 05:46:28
i dont like space/tab importance in synthax

What

yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 05:46:47
lanciagreggori 2022-08-28 05:46:39
Its difficult because its a departure from C

i learnt it before c :/

yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 05:46:54
like if you do
yabadaba doo 2022-08-28 05:47:07
if [ls] thats not good, but if [ ls ] works
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