So I won’t know when I have last opened some files?

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我係孫嘉晨 2022-08-30 05:11:27
universe repo is awesome,but you have to write own rc.local to control zpool import and zfs mount
ItsZariep 2022-08-30 05:21:13
Omniverse is also very nice
eastoftherockies 2022-08-30 05:37:08
ChrisCromer 2022-08-30 04:25:40
Well duh… On arch and artix you have to start services after installing them… This isn’t ubuntu. 🤦🏻‍♂

former arch user, i never started avahi lel

mdnssknght 2022-08-30 05:38:06
eastoftherockies 2022-08-30 05:37:08
former arch user, i never started avahi lel

Well, both Ubuntu and Arch use systemd…

eastoftherockies 2022-08-30 05:49:12
mdnssknght 2022-08-30 05:38:06
Well, both Ubuntu and Arch use systemd…

true, but at least arch isn’t bloated to hell and back

Glats 2022-08-30 05:55:04
I read that hibernate using an ssd maybe harmful to the disk. bec. of the mount of data that has to write.
it that dramatic or nah
lanciagreggori 2022-08-30 06:20:14
Glats 2022-08-30 05:55:04
I read that hibernate using an ssd maybe harmful to the disk. bec. of the mount of data that has to write.
it that dramatic or nah

Since its a one time write operation, I guess not that much

What really does hurt the SSD is not having noatime,nodiratime as your mount options, so with every normal write, you also have an additional write to update the file timestamps

lanciagreggori 2022-08-30 06:20:41
lanciagreggori 2022-08-30 06:20:14
Since its a one time write operation, I guess not that much

What really does hurt the SSD is not having noatime,nodiratime as your mount options, so with every normal write, you also have an additional write to update the file timestamps

That really does wear out the SSD

2022-08-30 06:20:57
Glats 2022-08-30 05:55:04
I read that hibernate using an ssd maybe harmful to the disk. bec. of the mount of data that has to write.
it that dramatic or nah

If your RAM size is like 32gb then yeah

2022-08-30 06:21:30
I don’t have hibernate enabled for security reasons tho
yabadaba doo 2022-08-30 06:25:23
2022-08-30 06:20:57
If your RAM size is like 32gb then yeah

what if its 20gb 😐

2022-08-30 06:25:40
yabadaba doo 2022-08-30 06:25:23
what if its 20gb 😐

It depends on how much memory you’re using at the time

2022-08-30 06:25:54
but seriously don’t use hibernation
yabadaba doo 2022-08-30 06:25:58
2022-08-30 06:25:40
It depends on how much memory you’re using at the time

its a linux machine i dont boot very often so like all of it

eastoftherockies 2022-08-30 06:26:06
i have swap but i never hibernate kek
2022-08-30 06:26:07
just turn it off man
Rougreh 2022-08-30 06:28:06
lanciagreggori 2022-08-30 06:20:14
Since its a one time write operation, I guess not that much

What really does hurt the SSD is not having noatime,nodiratime as your mount options, so with every normal write, you also have an additional write to update the file timestamps

should one enable those on both, NVME and sata drives?

lanciagreggori 2022-08-30 06:34:45
Rougreh 2022-08-30 06:28:06
should one enable those on both, NVME and sata drives?

The mount options?

Rougreh 2022-08-30 06:36:38
yes
Rougreh 2022-08-30 06:36:42
and are there any drawbacks to them
Rougreh 2022-08-30 06:37:14
and what If someone uses those on a hard disk instead?
lanciagreggori 2022-08-30 06:37:42
Rougreh 2022-08-30 06:36:42
and are there any drawbacks to them

No updated file timestamps, as far as I know only mail daemons are gonna have a problem, the rest should be fine

lanciagreggori 2022-08-30 06:38:18
Rougreh 2022-08-30 06:28:06
should one enable those on both, NVME and sata drives?

SATA is a protocol, not a storage technology

Anything that uses flash memory should have those mount options

Rougreh 2022-08-30 06:38:29
oh ok
lanciagreggori 2022-08-30 06:38:46
lanciagreggori 2022-08-30 06:38:18
SATA is a protocol, not a storage technology

Anything that uses flash memory should have those mount options

Like SSDs, don’t know if NVME drives use flash memory

Rougreh 2022-08-30 06:38:47
lanciagreggori 2022-08-30 06:37:42
No updated file timestamps, as far as I know only mail daemons are gonna have a problem, the rest should be fine

so I won’t know when I have last opened some files?

lanciagreggori 2022-08-30 06:39:24
Rougreh 2022-08-30 06:38:47
so I won’t know when I have last opened some files?

Stuff like access time and the rest, yes

Rougreh 2022-08-30 06:39:35
lanciagreggori 2022-08-30 06:38:46
Like SSDs, don’t know if NVME drives use flash memory

it uses nand flash memory

Rougreh 2022-08-30 06:39:49
lanciagreggori 2022-08-30 06:39:24
Stuff like access time and the rest, yes

access times is fine but what is “the rest”

lanciagreggori 2022-08-30 06:41:51
Rougreh 2022-08-30 06:37:14
and what If someone uses those on a hard disk instead?

For hard drives I really haven’t seen anyone recommend them and I don’t think there is a benefit since they last much longer and fundamentally work differently than flash memory

Rougreh 2022-08-30 06:42:47
oh ok but ssd wear depends on the size of writes and not the frequency, right? That is why we see “Expected TBW” right?
Rougreh 2022-08-30 06:42:53
or am I wrong
lanciagreggori 2022-08-30 06:43:22
Rougreh 2022-08-30 06:42:47
oh ok but ssd wear depends on the size of writes and not the frequency, right? That is why we see “Expected TBW” right?

I don’t know about that

Rougreh 2022-08-30 06:44:08
alright
lanciagreggori 2022-08-30 06:44:55
Rougreh 2022-08-30 06:39:49
access times is fine but what is “the rest”

The other stuff stat(1) shows

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