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thecatvoid 2022-07-11 22:04:03
also its not stock android if it has anything google
thecatvoid 2022-07-11 22:04:57
johnnokes 2022-07-11 22:04:01
I think they are legally required to have a contract to use Google apps, and the Play store and notification services directly. Not sure, and I’m not sure how this differs between individuals non-profits and yes-profits providing a build of Android.
but about huawei and other chinese os
thecatvoid 2022-07-11 22:05:10
they dont include any gapps afaik
johnnokes 2022-07-11 22:06:24
thecatvoid 2022-07-11 22:05:10
they dont include any gapps afaik
When selling abroad they do. Huawei is forbidden from doing so, legally. And I think they’re trying to cut down on Google usage inside China, if they haven’t from the beginning.
thecatvoid 2022-07-11 22:07:35
there are 2 other reason i think an oem would include gapps
to make it easier for normies (most apps depend on gplay services, and play store is the only trustworth app store with many apps)
or just google asking oem to include some of their apps, and pay them
johnnokes 2022-07-11 22:08:19
thecatvoid 2022-07-11 22:07:35
there are 2 other reason i think an oem would include gapps
to make it easier for normies (most apps depend on gplay services, and play store is the only trustworth app store with many apps)
or just google asking oem to include some of their apps, and pay them
If they don’t include gapps banking apps stop working, and even a lot of regular apps.
thecatvoid 2022-07-11 22:08:31
johnnokes 2022-07-11 22:08:19
If they don’t include gapps banking apps stop working, and even a lot of regular apps.
yup
johnnokes 2022-07-11 22:09:08
thecatvoid 2022-07-11 22:08:31
yup
There’s some Google security layer they need.
johnnokes 2022-07-11 22:10:23
Almost nobody wants to use Android without gapps. Trying to sell a smartphone to people who regularly rely on banking apps, watch Netflix and YouTube from the official app, that’s not gonna work.
johnnokes 2022-07-11 22:11:17
Not having gapps will kill your sales anywhere besides China. And some really poor places.
thecatvoid 2022-07-11 22:13:55
johnnokes 2022-07-11 22:10:23
Almost nobody wants to use Android without gapps. Trying to sell a smartphone to people who regularly rely on banking apps, watch Netflix and YouTube from the official app, that’s not gonna work.
also the reason why avb (verified boot) even exists is because of netflix etc i heard
isr0SeBlAcK 2022-07-11 22:14:02
johnnokes 2022-07-11 22:08:19
If they don’t include gapps banking apps stop working, and even a lot of regular apps.
Depends on the bank
I am using lineage os without gaps, banking apps work, depends on the bank if they requite google play services and if they check safetynet status
You can always install magisk and microg and you are good to go
thecatvoid 2022-07-11 22:14:47
thecatvoid 2022-07-11 22:13:55
also the reason why avb (verified boot) even exists is because of netflix etc i heard
to make sure os havent been tampered
thecatvoid 2022-07-11 22:14:59
and some DRM thingy
johnnokes 2022-07-11 22:17:27
isr0SeBlAcK 2022-07-11 22:14:02
Depends on the bank
I am using lineage os without gaps, banking apps work, depends on the bank if they requite google play services and if they check safetynet status
You can always install magisk and microg and you are good to go
I’ve heard stories of bank apps still not working with mircog. But I heard Netflix works with it.
SzabIzsak 2022-07-11 22:17:40
Hi dear members βΊοΈ
Fuseteam 2022-07-11 22:19:21
thecatvoid 2022-07-11 21:35:57
what do you expect with more and more security features
it isn’t a frankenstein due to the security features xd
Fuseteam 2022-07-11 22:20:05
alphaCL223 2022-07-11 21:39:09
What is better for privacy stock android or IOS?
linux on mobile xd
Fuseteam 2022-07-11 22:20:44
johnnokes 2022-07-11 21:41:37
If you use SSH a lot go with Android, because of Termux. And if you want easy integration with your computer, go with Android too, because of KDEconnect and GSconnect.
kdeconnect is on ios too these days xd
johnnokes 2022-07-11 22:21:34
Fuseteam 2022-07-11 22:20:44
kdeconnect is on ios too these days xd
But, it can’t run in the background. Right?
isr0SeBlAcK 2022-07-11 22:23:21
johnnokes 2022-07-11 22:17:27
I’ve heard stories of bank apps still not working with mircog. But I heard Netflix works with it.

Yes they check for safetynet status, even if you flash gaps on lineage os, sayteynet status will fail, you will need to root your device with magisk and magisk will override safteynet settings, so everything will work for sure
johnnokes 2022-07-11 22:24:06
isr0SeBlAcK 2022-07-11 22:23:21
Yes they check for safetynet status, even if you flash gaps on lineage os, sayteynet status will fail, you will need to root your device with magisk and magisk will override safteynet settings, so everything will work for sure
Not really viable for companies.
isr0SeBlAcK 2022-07-11 22:24:28
Fuseteam 2022-07-11 22:20:05
linux on mobile xd
Ubuntu touch actually works for basic functionality
Fuseteam 2022-07-11 22:25:21
johnnokes 2022-07-11 22:21:34
But, it can’t run in the background. Right?
or can it? π
thecatvoid 2022-07-11 22:25:23
Fuseteam 2022-07-11 22:19:21
it isn’t a frankenstein due to the security features xd
so why is it
Fuseteam 2022-07-11 22:26:06
thecatvoid 2022-07-11 22:25:23
so why is it
it is due to vendor drivers xd
Fuseteam 2022-07-11 22:26:41
isr0SeBlAcK 2022-07-11 22:24:28
Ubuntu touch actually works for basic functionality
i know right, i’m mostly on ubuntu touch myself~
johnnokes 2022-07-11 22:27:06
thecatvoid 2022-07-11 22:25:23
so why is it
Because, it is.
isr0SeBlAcK 2022-07-11 22:27:56
johnnokes 2022-07-11 22:24:06
Not really viable for companies.
Yep, it’s literally for individuals who wants to modify their phone or live without google, its possible without much drawbacks
thecatvoid 2022-07-11 22:28:16
Fuseteam 2022-07-11 22:26:06
it is due to vendor drivers xd
thats one reason
thecatvoid 2022-07-11 22:28:31
you are talking about kernel
johnnokes 2022-07-11 22:28:40
isr0SeBlAcK 2022-07-11 22:27:56
Yep, it’s literally for individuals who wants to modify their phone or live without google, its possible without much drawbacks
Except the drawback of being a nerd. But that’s about it.
Tlangik 2022-07-11 22:28:43
I love linux
isr0SeBlAcK 2022-07-11 22:31:03
Fuseteam 2022-07-11 22:26:41
i know right, i’m mostly on ubuntu touch myself~
Same I use it time to time
isr0SeBlAcK 2022-07-11 22:31:08
johnnokes 2022-07-11 22:28:40
Except the drawback of being a nerd. But that’s about it.
Lel
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