ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:00:00
cuz I wanted for it to automatically update, bcuz I have a few x apps I’d like having, and I’m lazy to add them in manually to be fair lol
alexmb7 2022-07-29 10:00:03
in deb it defaults to list of installed stuff, somehow
alexmb7 2022-07-29 10:00:34
if id install chromium or crap it would list it
alexmb7 2022-07-29 10:01:02
u mean u have other non package manager apps ?
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:03:34
not on arch I don’t think
alexmb7 2022-07-29 10:03:51
ye im deb only, for a reason
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:07:09
debian is well rounded, but also very very slow
K11M1 2022-07-29 10:07:40
Debian is slow?
thecatvoid 2022-07-29 10:09:24
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:07:09
debian is well rounded, but also very very slow
apt is slow sure
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:09:38
thecatvoid 2022-07-29 10:09:24
apt is slow sure
not apt, the whole system
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:09:49
in my experience, it’s way more sluggish and I’m unsure of why
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:10:14
I install the same packages on both Arch and Debian, and Arch boots faster, is more responsive, and doesn’t lag as much
thecatvoid 2022-07-29 10:10:18
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:09:49
in my experience, it’s way more sluggish and I’m unsure of why
in my experience, there wasnt a distro as fast debian
smol_mazunki 2022-07-29 10:10:27

@alexmb7 is this da wae?
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:10:34
maybe it’s the way they package it
thecatvoid 2022-07-29 10:10:41
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:10:14
I install the same packages on both Arch and Debian, and Arch boots faster, is more responsive, and doesn’t lag as much
it really depends on what services etc you enable
thecatvoid 2022-07-29 10:10:48
debian automatically does it
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:10:52
thecatvoid 2022-07-29 10:10:41
it really depends on what services etc you enable
booting wise, yes
thecatvoid 2022-07-29 10:10:55
it even has a apt update service
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:10:57
responsiveness, no
thecatvoid 2022-07-29 10:11:22
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:10:57
responsiveness, no
no
thecatvoid 2022-07-29 10:11:25
it does matter
thecatvoid 2022-07-29 10:11:47
imagine whatever package you install has a service, it will be enabled automatically
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:11:51
not as much
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:11:57
thecatvoid 2022-07-29 10:11:47
imagine whatever package you install has a service, it will be enabled automatically
I think dnf does that too
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:12:08
and Fedora boots slower, and so is the package manager
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:12:15
but it’s significantly more responsive
thecatvoid 2022-07-29 10:13:07
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:12:08
and Fedora boots slower, and so is the package manager
yes true, fedora has selinux, secure boot etc by default so thats expected
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:13:18
thecatvoid 2022-07-29 10:13:07
yes true, fedora has selinux, secure boot etc by default so thats expected
and it’s more responsive
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:13:24
way more
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:13:32
I’m not sure why that’s the case
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:13:45
Debian with Liquorix < Arch with mainline, in terms of speed
thecatvoid 2022-07-29 10:13:53
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:12:15
but it’s significantly more responsive
ok i think i know what it is
fedora and arch linux uses very recent kernels, but debian uses old lts
alexmb7 2022-07-29 10:14:05
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:09:49
in my experience, it’s way more sluggish and I’m unsure of why
i dont use debian 11, i use 12+
ActuallyNotGelb 2022-07-29 10:14:05
thecatvoid 2022-07-29 10:13:53
ok i think i know what it is
fedora and arch linux uses very recent kernels, but debian uses old lts
fedora and arch linux uses very recent kernels, but debian uses old lts
I usually use Debian Testing