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smol_mazunki 2022-08-07 14:53:48
but it’s much heavier
theoooooooooooooooooo 2022-08-07 14:54:40
Jamerive 2022-08-07 14:50:54
Suck to be you!😂
its not me
Mike_Went 2022-08-07 14:55:03
totally agree
smol_mazunki 2022-08-07 14:55:15
Jamerive 2022-08-07 14:50:14
About gtk4 and beyond… Would you see a fork in the future? Because it seems it will happen eventually
the gnome/gimp toolkit has always been and will probably always be a mess
smol_mazunki 2022-08-07 14:55:23
which is why i prefer to qt xd
Mike_Went 2022-08-07 14:56:14

damn 618 bug issues and they request -=cool=- ..::EFFECTS::.. instead of donating to full-time developers
theoooooooooooooooooo 2022-08-07 14:56:20
Mike_Went 2022-08-07 14:52:19
what’s wrong with this behavior of people who aren’t paid for features you want them to add?
well, for one, he asked politely
and two, if you can’t listen to your users, then why be a maintainer at all
(there are rude people, but just closing a PR without an explanation too is rude)
smol_mazunki 2022-08-07 14:56:23
Mike_Went 2022-08-07 14:56:14
damn 618 bug issues and they request -=cool=- ..::EFFECTS::.. instead of donating to full-time developers
this tbh.
smol_mazunki 2022-08-07 14:57:03
i’ve said it in this group before: there’s always drama around drew devault xd
theoooooooooooooooooo 2022-08-07 14:57:25
Jamerive 2022-08-07 14:44:57
I will try qtile anyway cause I can replicate bspwm behaviour on it
i tried qtile wayland and it works, but i couldn’t set up the input configuration stuff
means no dwt and tap-to-click for touchpad
pain
theoooooooooooooooooo 2022-08-07 14:57:58
Mike_Went 2022-08-07 14:56:14
damn 618 bug issues and they request -=cool=- ..::EFFECTS::.. instead of donating to full-time developers
damn
smol_mazunki 2022-08-07 14:58:30
things i like about qtile, and i haven’t even tried it yet:
1) python, my favourite language
2) native wayland support wlroots 😎
3) native x support (without relying on xwayland)
theoooooooooooooooooo 2022-08-07 14:59:34
smol_mazunki 2022-08-07 14:53:29
i’ve heard good stuff about wayfire, as emersion recommends
wayfire’s cool
but there’s this bug: if i click the close button, the whole wm crashes
Mike_Went 2022-08-07 14:59:46

yay, I am first
theoooooooooooooooooo 2022-08-07 15:00:28
smol_mazunki 2022-08-07 14:58:30
things i like about qtile, and i haven’t even tried it yet:
1) python, my favourite language
2) native wayland support wlroots 😎
3) native x support (without relying on xwayland)
x support in a wayland environment without xwayland? how
smol_mazunki 2022-08-07 15:00:44
theoooooooooooooooooo 2022-08-07 15:00:28
x support in a wayland environment without xwayland? how
i never said “in” wayland
smol_mazunki 2022-08-07 15:00:55
you can run it on xorg natively, and you can run it on wayland natively
smol_mazunki 2022-08-07 15:01:05
i’m assuming it also supports xwayland, but i haven’t tried it
theoooooooooooooooooo 2022-08-07 15:07:21
smol_mazunki 2022-08-07 15:01:05
i’m assuming it also supports xwayland, but i haven’t tried it
it does
Jamerive 2022-08-07 22:27:49
theoooooooooooooooooo 2022-08-07 14:57:25
i tried qtile wayland and it works, but i couldn’t set up the input configuration stuff
means no dwt and tap-to-click for touchpad
pain
I saw a shkxd tool for wayland ti use keyboard
Jamerive 2022-08-07 22:28:48
He said qtile support xorg apps natively
andykluger 2022-08-08 18:42:03
I never got the hang of nix, as I’m really put off by their package format, but nixery seems pretty darn cool. You pull or run a docker image named with all the packages you want, and it’s magically built for you
using an image name like nixery.dev/shell/git/htop
or like
podman run -it –rm nixery.dev/zsh/git/busybox/python3/shadow/sudo zsh
Jamerive 2022-08-08 23:33:50
did someone use homebrew or nix? what are the diferencces and adventages or drawbacks between them and a normal package manager?
Fibonakki 2022-08-08 23:39:40
Jamerive 2022-08-08 23:33:50
did someone use homebrew or nix? what are the diferencces and adventages or drawbacks between them and a normal package manager?
Just moved to mac 2 weeks ago. I use brew
Fibonakki 2022-08-08 23:40:05
Really like it. Makes life easier. Try to install every single thing with it. Don’t do manual installs
Fibonakki 2022-08-08 23:40:35
So later on you can do brew list and put that in a file to later on use it. Like pip freeze
andykluger 2022-08-08 23:42:36
IMO, on a mac, it’s generally most practical to use brew for everything. But nix shines when you want to define reproducible environments that will work the same on any machine. This nixery thing looks super handy.
Fibonakki 2022-08-08 23:43:59
andykluger 2022-08-08 23:42:36
IMO, on a mac, it’s generally most practical to use brew for everything. But nix shines when you want to define reproducible environments that will work the same on any machine. This nixery thing looks super handy.
I will check it out didn’t even consider since brew is what most use seems like
Fibonakki 2022-08-08 23:44:06
And it’s well maintained
Jamerive 2022-08-08 23:47:15
andykluger 2022-08-08 23:42:36
IMO, on a mac, it’s generally most practical to use brew for everything. But nix shines when you want to define reproducible environments that will work the same on any machine. This nixery thing looks super handy.
sound more interesting I might give it a try. But I wonder if a Artix Linux user (arch but without systemd) I would really need it at all….
Mike_Went 2022-08-08 23:48:56
andykluger 2022-08-08 23:42:36
IMO, on a mac, it’s generally most practical to use brew for everything. But nix shines when you want to define reproducible environments that will work the same on any machine. This nixery thing looks super handy.
what type or reproducible environment do you need?
andykluger 2022-08-08 23:52:53
Mike_Went 2022-08-08 23:48:56
what type or reproducible environment do you need?
I don’t use nix, as I currently define reproducible environments as containers, built with shell scripts and buildah.
But someone just opened my eyes to nixery, using it in a bug report to create a reproduction of the bug (that the main dev couldn’t reproduce locally), and nix+nixery seems great for that.
I might try using it for more general container definitions.
Jamerive 2022-08-08 23:54:35
andykluger 2022-08-08 23:52:53
I don’t use nix, as I currently define reproducible environments as containers, built with shell scripts and buildah.
But someone just opened my eyes to nixery, using it in a bug report to create a reproduction of the bug (that the main dev couldn’t reproduce locally), and nix+nixery seems great for that.
I might try using it for more general container definitions.
wow arch repos have nix!XDDD
Mike_Went 2022-08-08 23:54:50
andykluger 2022-08-08 23:52:53
I don’t use nix, as I currently define reproducible environments as containers, built with shell scripts and buildah.
But someone just opened my eyes to nixery, using it in a bug report to create a reproduction of the bug (that the main dev couldn’t reproduce locally), and nix+nixery seems great for that.
I might try using it for more general container definitions.
hm. so you can basically replicate person’s system in your container and play with it?
Mike_Went 2022-08-08 23:55:02
seems cool 🤔
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