How is that defective by design?

yep

Which it is great!

I don’t want to deal with any wayland related stuff.

I want to try qtile because if at some point when I have to use wayland, I will just have a configured desktop all the way!😁

why not?

the architecture is much healthier imo

Because is a greater mess rhan suckless tool?😂

well-documented functions and interfaces, with compositor-chosen implementations

xorg is messy imo

qtile supports both 100% xorg, and 100% wayland

just that I don’t want to test any new thing these days.

also xwayland, if you need it

valid point

Define healthier? From my point of view, it is a nightmare that only work well for gnome/kde project with a great budget/dev resources, leaving the small project at the whipms

i’ve been using sway for two years

xorg has the authority and freedom to implement what they consider important

It is but It have a well defined standart with proper tools. Wayland it is just a protocol. Then you have a ton of stuff that depending of the compositor, you have or not support. It is a hell for thrird party software all along

on wayland, compositors and applications simply work with interfaces which are specified by a standard

you don’t need to study the implementation of any given compositor, that’s not the app’s responsibility

Want a example? Good luck having blur!😂

personally i don’t give a shit about blur, myself

and that’s the same standpoint sway has. if you implement it, they’d accept a PR for it

But what if you need it, then you are fucked

but they don’t have the manpower to care

In xorg you can have blur on ANY desktop/wm

also, you can just implement your own compositor using the same interfaces, and do whatever you prefer

the only reason there’s no blur on sway is because nobody has implemented it yet

And that is my point. It is defective by design

how is that defective by design?

it’s “easy” to implement blur

they just don’t care

if you want blur, implement it yourself and request a merge

there’s nothing in the architecture against blur

Because you have to fix it yourself? I found amazing how you complainnabout the suckless way and still fail to realize that way on wayland’s way?😂

in fact, it’s even EASIER to implement blur on wayland than on xorg, because the way it’d work on xorg is that there’s an “overlay” on top of all the applications which reads and recomposes the output